Thursday, 31 January 2008

Today's headlines; madwoman goes mad



More than a thousand news articles in the English-speaking world think it's important to note that, shock-horror, Britney Spears is fucking mental.

I suppose I can't really comment on the annoyance factor of the attention being given to this slag-bag shitfuck, given that I've ironically just gone and given her even more attention via this post, but either way, I'm sure I'm not the only one who is going to grin when her impending death occurs.

Just as annoying is reading the comments left at some of the news articles, which are littered with the ravings of various women pouring sympathy on this jizz-encrusted fruitcake, and who invariably claim her ex-husband is to blame (always blame the man!) for being in her present state.

I've got to hand it to Britney though; at least she's done men a favour by being a very public walking stumbling reminder of how fucked up modern women are.

24 comments:

Anonymous said...

Ok, lads, let's put this to a vote.

Who wants Duncan to restore the blog in its entirety?

A complete blog would not only increase web traffic substantially due to many more available search words but also assist in illuminating novice MRAs more effectively.

There are many topics in the old posts that need to be read by everyone and new visitors will not know about them if they just start reading the newest post and do not find references to the pre-Wales material.

Duncan, what say you?

Woman With A Question said...

And her husband is a better parent than she is. Happy now?

Anonymous said...

Keeley Hazel and the conservative party show enormous intelligence:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keeley_Hazell

Hazell was hailed by the Conservative Party in December 2006 as an "environmental hero" for her campaigns in The Sun, giving environmental tips such as turning lights off during sex and using digital cameras.

Anonymous said...

When your entire career is built around getting attention, your dignity sort of goes out the window.

How the hell do you blame that on anybody?

The only thing more pathetic than Ms. Spears' protracted, public falling apart is the loathesome, morbid packs of burger munching slags hanging on to every detail as if it has something to do with their lives.

The Britney Spears industry folded due to a lack of product. The oh my goodness, Britney Spears is a mess industry is all that's left of this poor, deluded hag's money making potential.

jbgood said...

Britney seems unable to overcome her victim mentality (just like every other woman) therefore she has to conjure up ever more outlandish behaviour and claims to prove it. Eventually, we shall see her being payed vast sums of money by talk shows to share the details of her hard life, mental health problems etc. Its a business! Personally I'd rather clean the toilet than hear about it.

Anonymous said...

Yes,Duncan and the truly alarming thing is that many women in their teens and even 20s-30s follow all this celebrity implosion shit with bated breath.They watch,read and talk about it incessantly.Spears,Hilton,Winehouse and all the rest are simply little cum buckets who have more money than sense.They should all just gather round in a circle stark naked and let every single guy in the world wank off all over them,cause that is all they're worth.Totally useless,the lot of them.I predict that Spears and Winehouse will be dead in 3 years time.Good Riddance.Ironic thing is,they would then become some sort of sick icons to the young women of the west.And any children they have shat out should be taken from them - they're unfit to be mothers.

Anonymous said...

http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/article3283690.ece?Submitted=true

British women in their thirties want mates. They can’t find any. Why? Because most eligible males are selfish, mixed-up man-boys chasing no-strings sex, says our correspondent

Anonymous said...

The marriage strike is working like charm - it is in the news now.

http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/article3283690.ece?Submitted=true

Men are like eggs. They must hatch or go bad. I came to this conclusion after seeing in the new year with a gang of university friends and hearing one of them, a single guy of 35 called Jamie, declare with complete sincerity that his resolution for 2008 was not to get a girlfriend.

I groaned. His vow struck me as odd, not just because Jamie is a remarkably warm, kind and entertaining individual rather than some ropey Lothario, but because I knew him ten years ago when he was mustard keen to marry his then girlfriend. And when I thought harder about it, I realised that over the past decade Jamie has effectively been degenerating from the man he was at 25 years old to the boy he is today.



I think Jamie has grown up since being 25 and is now looking through the broken promises of marriage. I wished to marry, too, when i was young, but I realised that it is too risky and women carry too many STDs and live promiscuously.

Anonymous said...

The marriage strike is working, professors and journalists have no clue as usual, but the comments I copied above say exactly what we say constantly.
It is long, but really informative.

http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/article3283690.ece?Submitted=true

Fantastic, as a 39yr old male I had an issue about dating "someone too young" but after reading this I now realise its ok in the eyes of society to date someone in the mid-twenties.

Friday night, bring it on!!!!

ps. to the woman who says have kids anyway, well, that's instantly ruled you out amongst alot of my single male friends. Enjoy.


Steve, Manchester,

I don't care about marriage, all I want ed to do was to find somebody I could love. But I find that most men only want sex....so I've decided that I'll live my life on my own and all this love I have inside me will be spent on my family and friends.

Charlotte, 37, London, England

Boohoo , the chickens are coming home to roost . All the women who passed us by because we didn't measure up to 'Big' from Sex and the City , or Mr Darcy , are suddenly all lonlely and desperate . I wonder why ? Maybe if they realised that life isn't a Jane Green novel they'd be a lot happier . As for the man-boy thing , fantastic ! You're a long time dead so make the most of it chaps !

Dan, Watford ,

Ha Ha
I think as long as a woman thinks of a man as a "mate", and talks in terms of just getting 'a man', instead of her love or husband - she is doomed to be miserable ...and deservedly so...these terms suggest she is thinking only of herself and of a consumer good like a new handbag or dress, just an appendage for her satisfaction.
I usually cringe when i hear a woman talk of needing 'a man', it is selfish and tacky.
What they should be looking for is 'love' or a relationship', but if you want a 'mate' then go to the zoo.

Daniel K888, Melbourne, Australia

I am a 32 year old man-boy bachelor as described in the article and proud of it! I am having the time of my life and do not plan to settle down until I am at least 40. At that age, I would prefer a girl in her late 20's rather than a bitter battle-axe in her mid 30's. Single career women in their mid 30's DO tend to be domineering, vicious and desperate. In the meantime, I will enjoy great no strings attached sex with girls in their 20's, holidays wherever I fancy, my own space and the ability to do what I want whenever I want without having some neurotic, narcissist screeching at me all day. Most if not ALL my married friends envy my freedom and most of those who do not have children would give an arm or a leg to be in my position. Fuguez hits the nail on its head: Women in their mid-30's = less fun, more emotional baggage, more cynical and increasingly saggy body parts.

Samuel , Islington, London,

I lived with a 35 year old single girl in London (I am 27). She was completely barmy and a manic depressive man hater. I was very pleased when she threw me out. She could have been very attractive to a male of most ages, but I simply couldn't sympathise with her. Much of her behaviour was utterly bizarre and probably quite indicative of many single girls in their 30s (but admittedly quite extreme). It was just terrifying!! Fine, if one bloke did something nasty, thats life - get over it. I was dumped horribly once by a girl who strangely wanted me to prove my love for her. The opposite happened and I ran off scared to death. Stop being silly and be nice. Don't confuse us with your issues. I disagree that men are complicated. I just love women!! And will keep dating and going out til I find one I really like.

GP, Edinburgh, Scotland

In exactly 28 days you may propose to the man of your choice. In fact do what men do. Have a list, and work down it until one target accepts.
However there are very few businessmen or professionals who are looking to marry women in their late thirties. Mostly these men were the college "bucks", got the pretty girls as girlfriends, and married one of them on their way up. If they are divorced, they don't have the attitude, and can probably get younger and sexier women than you to set up for the next divorce. You've got to be realistic. You've left it too late for the husbad you could have had, not quite too late for any husband at all.

Malcolm McLean, Bradford, UK

Laura, you need a reality check. You said that women should not settle for Mr. Okay, then my response is neither should men settle for Ms. Okay either. This battle between men and women I am sick to the back teeth of. When will people realise men and women are different and always will be. Trying to turn men into women and vice versa only complicates things. Categorizing men as sex starved perverts or women as brazen hussies is tantemount to a form of racism. Lets not get rapped up in these discussions and instead lets embrace our differences afterall opposites attract - fact.

Miesha, Manchester, UK

Poor little whiny Girls !!
maybe Men should not be considered as just another item in your shopping basket, just there to fulfill your pathetic TV/advertising fed notion of life, glowing and perfect happiness and all...
Why don't you stop shopping and watching TV , and start trying to have a life (try reading a book or practice a team sport, give time to a charity ) , doing interesting things will get you to meet other interesting people doing interesting things.

Anne, PARIS, FRANCE

Haverstock Bill is spot on regarding the shift of balance of power from women to men moving from their 20s to 30s. Just to be absolutely clear, most men (and certainly more than the author imagines) want love and to settle down. It's just that uncommitted sex is also extremely satisfying, if on a shallower plane. Present one of these gallivanting 30 something men with a fantastic girl and he will give it all up for her. This is an age old formula. That is precisely what I did. Why would any man or woman rush into a lifelong relationship if he/she does not feel the desperate need to? We are living a society of increased liberation of all fronts (including the phenomenon of ladettes sleeping around like me - let's discuss that if you'd like) and the apparent requirement to settle down the day our nation's ladies' bio clocks start nearing midnight is entirely inconsistent with this. It's such typical feminist illogic that the failure to pin a man down is blamed on the man...

Guy, London,

When I was in my 20's and my career was in its infancy, girls my age weren't interested, they wanted the hunky guys in their 30's with big apartments and fancy cars. They didn't want trips to the cinema and a pizza, but weekend breaks and exclusive restaurants. But now I'm successful and in my mid thirties I've 'appeared' on women's radar.

Suddenly women who wouldn't have looked at me twice 10 years ago are practically throwing themselves and their telephone numbers at me. And they're not alone, since women in their 20's also see me as potential boyfriend material as well. I'm getting the kind of attention I previously only dreamed about.

Then when I read Laura bemoaning men like myself for not settling down just as we are starting to actually attract the opposite sex I find it rather ironic. If she had settled down when she was getting attention from men during her 20's then I might have taken her seriously, but clearly she was enjoying herself too much.

That's what I'm doing now.

Mark, London,

Forget the 30 somethings... concentrate of the over 50's, they don't smell they don't tell and they're as grateful as hell...and some of them even do DIY!

MG, Portsmouth,

Most attractive girls ignore the nice guys for bastards during their teens and twenties. They start taking an interest when they want someone steadier. It is no surprise that most "nice guys" don't think "thank heavens you've lowered your standards enough to want me", but instead see it as an opportunity to play the field. Unfortunately, this creates a very beguiling alternative to settling down, and an alternative glamourised on television and in field. It isn't so much that 30something women are competing with 20something, but that the modern dating game by which people find their "life partner" also provides men with a fairly attractive substitute to long-term commitment - sex after a few dates, and the thrill of the first seduction. Of course, by the time they reach 40+, the same men will be regretting missed opportunities...

joseph, London,

Does not anyone find it a little insulting that it still seen as a measure of success for a woman to get married off.

I am a 29 year old man (kid) and I do not intend to get married; an institution that I see as being outdated, irrelevant and stifling, not just to me but to relationships themselves. I do intent to have children, and have a committed relationship with my amazing girlfriend.

If women of my age stopped obsessing about marriage and just started enjoying the relationships that came their way, they may find that it all becomes a lot less complicated and painful. They may even wake up one morning and find a committed kid lying next to them and realise that a marriage is not synonymous with success.

Chris, London, England

Quite an interesting article. As anecdotal evidence, having some bearing on this subject, several of my male friends from University have married spouses from outside of the UK. They were all quite elligible (professional/business careers) but now seem to be deleriously happy.

Personally, I think that this is a growing trend. Therefore, it would seem that British men do want to settle down, but not with British women.

Jon, Expat,

What a load of rubbish, "Yeah sure its all mens fault...again". Maybe the author should stop and examine the huge shift in roles and expectations of "WOMEN" in the last generation. Far too many baby boomer mothers, too busy trying to turn their daughters in to men and convincing them of the nonsense that "You can have it all" rather than teaching them basic life skills, too afraid that they would be chained to the sink (like some of them).
Any relationship only works if both people are committed to it and with one party knowing that she can take half the house even if she's in the wrong, if he's lucky and believing that the kids will be fine if they never see their Father is unlikely to suceed. Face it, your mothers were selling you a dream, not reality.

Paul, Weybridge, UK

Not all men want to settle down. I've been very succesful, own my own house, a Porsche 911 and enjoy a great life. I have a girlfriend, but no intention of moving on from where I am for now.

Andy Banks, Bristol, UK

Throughout their teens and twenties women flirt, sleep around, and enjoy the position of power that being young, desirable and fertile brings. Those were their prime years, and these are ours. You've had your fun - stop whingeing and get over it.

ed, 35, london,

I think you'll find most men in their thirties would love to settle down, I know I would. But by the time we reach mid thirties we look around at our married friends and tend to see that marriage isn't the ideal we thought it was in our twenties.
So when I think of marriage it has to be to someone I truly love and is a real friend.
Whatever happened to meeting someone you like and taking it from there? The author and various female commentators have all just confirmed most men's worst fear, that all women of a certain age are looking for is marriage, as a means to having children and fulfilling their own desires. What about love, companionship, and partnership? Put down the magazines and go and find soemone you enjoy spending time with.

Nick, Bristol, UK

I think the so called battle of the sexes is, at least to an extent, a biological thing as you correctly hinted.

When in my early twenties were dating girls of similar age it seemed as if all had on voice and were saying to me: “let’s take it easy, I am not looking for anything serious� which felt like a letdown.

Now that I have turned 31 and date girls of similar age range, again it seems as if they all have the same one voice, though this time the “M� word is dropped as early as the first date which causes me panic attacks.

My conclusion is that from late teens to mid twenties women have the upper hand, which they lose from the late twenties onwards largely due to the “biological clock� phenomenon.

Unfortunately, several women from their late twenties onwards in order to reproduce often chose the wrong mate simply because he offers to satisfy that need.

P, London,

Can I just say as a 38 year old married for the last 3 1/2 years, marrage is great! I consider myself lucky enough to have met the right girl (34) and I don't think marriage is a hostage situation at all.

Relationships are all about timing, meet the right person at the right time. Simple as that, just becuase its your right time for something doesn't equate to somebody elses. Don't give up though, and remeber to enjoy yourself while waiting for the "one"!

AP, North,

I agree 100% with what Laura is saying- although I am 30 and happily married I am in the minority of all my friends. They're all single, but looking. However the majority do live in London where it seems more the norm to be single.
I work for The Introduction Company, an exclusive dating company in the North and, although we're quite lucky in that we do have lots of men on our books, we do have more ladies looking for their soulmate. And men are so very choosy! I think Andrew Clover is correct in saying that divorced men are more realistic too.
And, no, no one should ever have to settle for just Mr/Ms Only OK. There is someone out there for everyone.

Anna Addison, Middlesbrough,

Errr, males are all boys. How have you missed this?

My dad is 65 and still acts the big kidder but he's not depressed and married at 39 to my mum who was 35. I still love to kid around, it's what makes life fun. Fun is all we want and we want it all the time. If there's no fun then there's time for insecurities to creep in. I think you'll find that once a guy finds an exciting and interesting enough partner, he'll want to stick around for a long time.

Alistair Kipling, Birmingham,

Once again an article on life based solely around the specific micro-climate of London. Hey folks there's a huge country around you with lots of people in it, and guess what, they're different from you!

Trevor, Sheffield, South Yorkshire

Whats so wrong with men not growing up? Times have changed, it's not all about marriage and children anymore. I liked what Andrew Clover was saying till he jested about how to trap a man, cant we just have fun with a man till the relationship has run it's course without bringing marriage and children into it? I work in a male dominated industry and I know men are not the simple creatures they are often made out to be. Three men I'm close to have been so badly hurt that they wont commit to a "traditional" relationship, but that doesnt make them man-boys, they are once-bitten-twice-shy cynics, they have been hurt and dont want to go through that again. I'll admit I look at life a little differently to some as Ive chosen not to have children, so maybe not seeing all men as potential fathers means that I see them clearer.

Alice Robinson, Lincoln, U.K.

The balance of power between men and women does shift as they move from their twenties to their thirties. Women in their twenties are able to exploit their charms to their fullest extent, while men are still insecure and, to put it bluntly, not fully mature and comfortable with themselves - if a 28 year old man has an attractive girlfriend he'll be more inclined to try to close the deal as he still can't quite believe his luck.

10 years on, men are more likely to have grown into themselves, are more relaxed and comfortable with who they are and so are more confident in their relationships with women - and don't feel the fear of losing out any longer. This is the way it's worked for me - at 38 I'm successful, affluent and enjoying a rich love life, way beyond what I could have imagined 10 years back. I think this may be part of the phenomenon Laura has witnessed. I have to say though - I've never had therapy. Way too metrosexual.

Haverstock Bill, London,

Thank you Laura for your insight. You have almost written my story. I met the love of my life when I was 32 (he was 39). He insisted he wanted to marry me. When I said yes, and started to build our life together, he promptly ran off with a thai girl half is age. I have an MBA, am financially independent but this cut my confidence like a knife. I naively thought that love would overcome his insecurities. Now 7 years later, after 3 years of grieving and being alone, I'm seeing someone but it's only ok. He's not the love of my life and everything needs work. I wonder every day is it better to be in an ok relationship rather than being alone or should I hold out for true love again, taking a risk that I might sacrifice children. (I will be 39 this year). I disagree Jame - you can have everything, as long as you compromise something.

Rebecca, Auckland, New Zealand

Now here is an interesting statistic. The highest per capita marrying other races and nationalities is…guess who, the English male. Now all my friends from my bachelor days have married bar one – but he is a hopeless case. None married that classic ‘nice’ Anglo-Saxon English girl, I married a French Canadian. Now if you just take a minute to reflect, you come to the conclusion that it is not that the English males won’t marry, it's that that they won’t marry…. now complete the sentence yourself.

Men want to marry and start families but in the present English culture it is made so difficult – for the male.

Prof Hugh Phillips , Boucherville Quebec, Canada

"Because most eligible males are selfish, mixed-up man-boys chasing no-strings sex". You are totally correct and we make no excuses. We are "eligible males" - who by your definition have every thing we could want, career, money, women, fun. You want us to give this up now?

Seriously, the truth is that nowadays what most women in their 30s want is increasingly not what men in their 30s want. Despite this, and contrary to what you may think, there still are plenty of guys out there looking for the same kind of relationship and wonder where all the single eligible women are.

So before you women write yet another article asking where all the eligible men have gone, try this experiment: lower your standards next time you're looking for a date, you might be pleasantly surprised. If you're not prepared to do that, then why should an "eligible man" who's enjoying his bachelor lifestyle give that up for you?

Will, London,

As a result of the pill and womens' lib. the modern woman is more promiscuous than her forebears. What women failed to realise was that, in their rush to be free, they were really liberating men; perhaps they do now.

In the past when a man met a virgin and fell in love he felt committed to looking after and protecting her. He will be unfortunate to meet a virgin these days. However men's attitudes to women of loose morals has not altered over the decades. This is now being reflected in the difficulty of modern women finding someone to take on the commitment of looking after them and any offspring.

A man faced with the choice of marriage to a woman with a past or possessing his dream car does not really have a choice.

cambayne, Edinburgh, Scotland

Sorry, but how are sweeping generalisations about thirty-something 'man boys' any less inane than John Gray's Men are from Mars Women are from Venus patronising guff?

Oddly enough I never had too much difficulty in my 20s or 30s meeting funny, clever, non-narcissistic grown-up men of the same age and ended up marrying the best one, possibly because I didn't hang around with a hunting pack of female friends or make chick-lit level assumptions about the men I met - treat people like stereotypes and they're more likely to respond as such, treat them as individuals ditto. Of course there are dull, self-obsessed, infantile men, there are plenty of dull, self-obsessed infantile women too, and I'd tend to put Laura Nolan in the latter group. Perhaps if you have passions that stimulate and fulfil you other than your and your friends' love lives and your work, you'll be happier, as well as more interesting and fun to be anound and so attract more desirable and adult prospective partners?

Ruth , Glasgow, Scotland

I think the problem with your generation of women is that they so warmly embraced their newfound freedoms that perhaps they forgot about the ticking bombs in their uteruses until too late, which is probably more or less where you are right now. This article strikes me as a bitter rant against the unjust biology of the whole thing.

Men are not of the same limited fecundity as women and this is, of course, unfair. It's the last remaining sexual inequality but it's hard-coded into our biology and until such time as science can find a way of delaying or eliminating the onset of menopause, then there's no immediate solution to your problem.

Simply put, you cannot have the best of both worlds. There just isn't enough time to pursue both your personal aspirations and the single most overriding of human instincts: getting your genes into the next generation. The clock is ticking.

Paul, Bath, UK

Married couples are a minority. Half of marriages don't last beyond 10 years. The peak year for divorces is after only 4 years of marriage. Two thirds of divorces are instigated by the wife. 60% of married women would divorce their husbands immediately if they could afford it, 50% of married men feel unloved (those last 2 were in the news last week). Cohabiting couples are even less successful. Couples used to "stay together for the sake of the children" but started divorcing when the law made it financially survivable for women.

So, here's your reality check. It's only single women who think marriage is desirable. Men, and married women, think marriage is rubbish.

Women would be better off living in all-female households. Get a male lover and/or get pregnant when it suits you, but otherwise rely on each other for support. It's what women do already, but without the burden of a useless man.

Patrick Simpson, Oxford, UK

Marriage has become a very 'bad deal' for men in the UK. Women want to get married but later if they become bored or fancy a change the husband will find himself thrown out of the family home divested of his children and assets.
Statistics show that most divorces are initiated by women but as this article demonstrates so are most marriages.
Unless men are given some real rights and protection under Britains divorce laws then they are crazy to get married.
Accusing men of behaving like 'boys' is missing the point marriage now works entirely in the interest of women so you cant blame the men if they no longer want to get involved in it.

Jack, Manila,

Hmmm .. many men are wary of marriage for very practical and rational reasons. Marriage represents loss of freedom and, despite decades of feminism, it still generally means a significant transfer of wealth from groom to bride (.. how is it so many career women manage to blow so much of their money on clothes, shoes and overseas trips, etc etc ?) And also financial ruination for men in the statistically likely event it all ends in divorce. Sure, having kids are wonderful, but odds are you'll end up losing all meaningful access to them thanks to the Family Court. Net result: "run for the hills"

Karl, Auckland, New Zealand

I am 38 this year. I am sick of hearing 30-something women complain about men of their age group. At university 15 years ago I found that most girls were looking for comfort, security and 'lifestyle', and simply, most men in their early 20's couldn't provide that. The cynical material fact is that the younger women of today still want slightly older men because they can provide more due to their disposable incomes and more affluent lifestyles. Perhaps these women in their 30's need to look at themselves in some cases rather than blame all men for what they cannot get. They should try being a poor guy in their early 20's - it's not easy girls!

Tim, London, UK

It is malicious and quite unfair to blame the legitimate desires and rights of the individual to freedom, equality and profession for the complexity of the current situation.

Love is not obligatory and is not the only way to happiness. In addition, love is not about making self-sacrifices, about restrictions and ultimatums. Quite the contrary, it is essentially liberating and inspirational and therefore rare and very hard to find. Unfortunately, the exquisiteness is accessible to the few lucky ones and you cannot blame feminism for that.

For some people love is prerequisite for happiness. For some, it is not. It is thanks to feminism that we both, men and women, have options now. So, you can either strive for love and be lucky enough to find it, or you can settle for less, or you can try to find inner happiness by making yourself a better person. In the end, that is the only reason why we are here.

Tasha, Belgrade, Serbia

In my experience (as a single 36-year-old Englishman who has lived and worked in London, New York and now resides in Sydney), I can assure you that if you did some in-depth analysis on the drift-away-from-commitment you allude to in your article you will realise that it's nothing of the sort. In fact we are to a very large extent driven away from commitment by women that during their 20's have the pick of the pack - and use that supply/demand advantage (have you been in club/bar in London recently and seen more 20-something women in there than men?) to merciless extents to pick-and-choose at will their partners, and if something “better� comes along you’re dropped at a moments notice. The uncertainty, the lack of consistency that men experience from women during their 20s is what has caused this “drift�.

However, what is now being described in Sydney as the “30’s Flip� puts paid to that. As women move into their 30s and grow up enough to realise what they want is not actually very often contained in the body of some muscle bound freak, those men sensitive enough to have thought about the situation are now so disenchanted with women their own age they seek out the 20-somethings who now appear to have matured faster than the previous generation and appreciate the qualities of men in their 30’s….and we watch women flounder and blame us…ho hum!

Graeme, Sydney, Australia

The problem with modern women is that they're turning into men! that disgusting cultural phenomena of the early nineties 'the ladette' is a good example. Call me sexist, but I don't like seeing women drinking pints of lager, obsessing over football, engaging in casual sex etc... Women are the upholders of human dignity, compassion and intelligence, but in British culture they've become coarse and are losing their identity.

Jay P, South o the river,

Marriage for men under today's divorce laws is little more than a hostage taking. Close to insane for men to bet the emotional and financial ranch on marriage which today has a 50% chance of failure. Besides, family life doesn't produce much happiness when government policy forces all but the wealthiest couples to work long hours to make ends meet.

MARK KLEIN, M.D., OAKLAND, CALIFORNIA

London is full of single women who are 'thirty something' and who have had a great time over the past twenty years generally putting men down and treating them like shit for no better reason than to feel better about themselves and to show off to their friends.
Now men don't want them. So why are they surprised?

John Hall, Wilmington, Vermont USA

This is pretty harsh stuff. I can look at my phone addressbook now and find a dozen early thirties intelligent, witty, decent, professional, graduate men who would love nowt more than a girlfriend. Of course they are not that handsome (just normal) or rich, so women just pass them by. Maybe it's because we live in London, but it is unfair both ways so please don't characterize us all by an outdated stereotype.

M. Williams, London, UK

As a single mature (omg I hate that word) woman I'd like to comment.

I've been free and footloose, married twice now divorced, a career woman obsessed with perfection, pursued the pursuer, fled and retreated, rethought, planned and flunked... and now find myself stranded on lonely planet wondering what it's all about (cliche). If Alfie were around I'd shag him, but instead feel there is something increasingly missing that's essential to any relationship and may in fact be going out of style.

The neurons are arranged much differently than they were 'back in the day'; social exigenices demanded fewer matrices and there were fewer glamourous distractions. Some of the changes are good; some leave those with a still-faintly beating heart wanting.

Those with a beating heart are treated like sophisticated farm animals worried about progeny and the people who left off with feeling prefer neurons and investments...

It's a mess, that's why I look at dysfunctional romantic comedies.

Elan Durham, Santa Monica, CA/US

The divorce rate is 50%.
More than two thirds of divorces are initiated by the wife.
After pregnancy, Mum devotes all her attention to the children and Dad is just a paycheck.
After pregnancy, Mum says she cares about her figure but in practise acts otherwise.
The financial and emotional losers from a divorce are men.

Would you invest your savings in a business that had this rate of failure?

Phil, Nottingham,

It's no different in the States. As I've gotten older (39), I find older men (i.e., my age) pretty much of a turn-off. Online, these guys indicate that they'd date an 18 year old, but wouldn't date a woman their own age. Out of curiosity, I emailed one guy and asked why that was. The answer was that they were likely to have less baggage. There seems to be an assumption that you have baggage if you are older, and that's really unfortunate. At this point, I'm going to let fate decide if I am meant to be with someone and have kids.

Leigh, Savannah, USA

Of course some young men are very different, I for example am perfectly happy (understatement of the century, but there we are) being with my fiancé, I feel no urge to go looking for anything extra because I have all I'll ever want and need with her.

Tim Hamilton, Chatham,

Ladies, look at the dating stats above. Men, all men, want to marry a 24 year-old. So if the man you are with when you are 24 doesn't want to marry you then, flick him and get one that does.

Paul Obvious, Brisbane, Australia

Just wait for the married ones to get divorced.

Bruno, NYC,

Who said ALL 30+ singleton females were terrified of the so-called 'baby-bomb'? How about the ones who don't give a damn about it? Or marriage for that matter?

J. D. Bridge, Toronto,

Morrissey put it well: "If you're so funny, why are you on your own tonight? If you're so very entertaining, why do you sleep alone tonight?"
Perhaps single women should think what they could do to make themselves more appealing to men as potential partners. here's a clue: it has nothing, or very little to do with beauty, grooming, clothes etc - and a lot to do with being patient, kind, trusting, generous and interesting. All of which men have to do as well, of course.

David Miller, London,

its quite simple, you women wanted freedom, equality, a profession, but half of you forgot about dating, forgot what you where, and now you are all middle aged, with a baby time bomb ticking in you head! You can't have everything.....

Jame Thonpson, cardiff, uk

I find it amusing that you consider men to be lesser than we once were. The manly men with which you're comparing us postmodern 'men-boys' are the very chauvinist monsters whose suppression you fought so long to overcome. Do you really think that enduring marriages of the past arose because a young woman actually managed to find the 'Mr. Right' who you're convinced no longer exists?

You're deluded if you think that marriages of the past were based on some mythical mutual chemistry, where men were men and weren't in touch with their feelings. Those relationships were far more likely based on serious repression in the face of far less secular ideas of how women and men should relate; the very same ideas which held women in such low regard in relation to men.

Kevin Ratcliffe, London, UK

A man needs a woman like a fish needs a bicycle.

Sound familiar?

Richard, Manchester,

In America divorce is a punishable offense if you are a man. Even if the divorce is instigated by the woman. And after children men are treated only as a paycheck for child care. In the future maybe marriage will be for companionship with childrearing & sex will be handled by paid professionals.

Rex, Costa Mesa, California

Boo Hoo. Does this new age self assured female moaning never end. Do you see column inches devoted to men whining on that they can't find 'the one' these days because single 30 something women seem selfish and devoted to the shallow materialistic lifestyle of 'Sex in the City' than to mutual devotion to a partner and family. Guess what ladies, you can't have it all and those of us mere mortal males who aren't board room giants or charismatic billionaires have known it for years. Lifes hard, harden up. Open yourself up to the prospect of a relationship or don't, it's your choice. Fence sitting, cynasism and moaning just wont work though. Welcome to the real world - not really like Sex and the City at all is it.

Johno, Brisbane, Australia

The bio-clock goes off once again and you have hit the snooze button.

The fact is that most 20-something women want little to do with 20-something men, preferring 30-something men. When they become 30-something they have to compete with themselves 10 years younger: more fun, less baggage, and less cynical.
It's a leap year. Get out there girl and get proposing!
It's easy once you get over yourself.

fuguez aged 35 1/4 - single and loving it.

fuguez, mayfair/london,

Martin said...

Good point. The fucking wankers at BBC radio 5 live had a WHOLE fucking HOUR of thier phone in dedicated to Spears. Like we give a shit. Same with that Amy Winerack.

Fuck them. These women wouldn't give you the shit off their arse if they saw you in the street, so why do the media go on about it?

And WHY is my TV full of fucking THICK WAGS with their own TV show? FUCK OFF YOU SLAGS!!!!!

cybro said...

Everyone has a purpose in life even if it is only to serve as a bad example.

Anonymous said...

http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/2006/11/novone48.jpg

Keeley Hazzel is great and dumb. She will not marry and complain later.

Anonymous said...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/11874381@N02/1469058487/

Uterine Pride!!

LOL

Anonymous said...

Duncan, these comments have a value, they show, that men are aware and avoiding marriage. some comments are unbelievably blunt, I wonder why they have not been censored.

http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/article3283690.ece


Elan Durham from Santa Monica, MARRY ME!!!!

scott elliott, Edinburgh,

Look at the behaviour of young women, and you will know why they are not married at 30 years. Take model Keeley Hazzel for example. Instead of marrying now, she is getting photographed nude. There is no doubt, she would find a good husband now, if she wanted to marry a serious "boring" man, who is family oriented and lives a normal life. In ten years it will be difficult for her, because her looks will fade.
It is the free choice of the women, to squander their youth. They enjoy total freedom.

Brian Hobbs, London, great britain

Men in their 20s are immature. They're prone to acting irrationally, and they're heedless of risk. They believe in romantic love, not having lived for long enough to know it never lasts. That's why they're prepared to risk all their future wealth on a 50/50 risk of divorce.

Older heads are wiser.

Redcliffe, London,

I am 31, have lots of friends, a good job and have been told I am very attractive. I have also been single for a long time. A few years ago, I made the mistake of falling in love with my best friend, who was in his 40s and single. We spent lots of time together - dinner, drinks, cinema, talking for hours, days out - and of course progressed to sleeping together. I, and all our friends, thought we were perfect for each other. But when I broached the subject of us actually being a couple, he claimed he wasn't good enough for me, wasn't good at relationships, etc. Because of how I felt about him, I carried on doing what we were doing. Eventually, I couldn't take being treated like a girlfriend but without any committment any longer, and I stopped it. Now I don't see him at all, so I lost my best friend too. Ironically, I am now all the things I never was before - scared, unwilling to trust, reticent. Of course, I am still single, because those traits are not attractive.

Maria, London, UK

Perhaps it is time that English women did a bit of a marketing exercise, redesigned and relaunched their product.
At the moment they offer wage-slavery, a neurotic, self-obsessed, contemptuous and inflexible partner, followed by a nasty court case, financial dismay, eviction and isolation. All this in return for a supply of sex (limited and not guaranteed) friendship, (providing you are their friends, they don't have to be yours) and the illusion of loyalty. Selfish, immature behaviour that means that they have never grown up: even worse than men.
Against this, the foreign-born women seem to actually want to work at being married, want to share life with their man, and have their product well sorted out.
I feel I am better off with Mother Thumb and her four daughters, and I can leave the English woman to enjoy Bedtime with Germaine Greer.
From one matrimonial failure/dropout to another, salutation!

Richard, Dunstable, England


Jay P, I DO call you sexist. It shouldn't only be up to women to, as you put it, be the "upholders of human dignity, compassion and intelligence". What are you bringing to the equation?

Maria, aylesbury, UK

yes Dan I agree with you..I find my own sex very airy fairy about men..but the alternative for you is the realist butch 'Woodhouse' character like me..you would not get away with much ! LOL

yr, cambs, uk

Interesting article. What I would say is that generally older women with younger guys does not work. I spent 6-7 years with a woman 5 years older than me and ultimately it was not a success. A 32 year old woman wants many different things generally than a 27 year old man does. I am now 33 and engaged to a wonderful 26 year old girl. I am sure older women/younger men can work in some instances, but generally what a man wants at 32 or 33 is pretty much what a woman is looking for towards her late 20's, so its a much better fit. Plus the novelty of an older woman wears off pretty quickly - give me a younger woman any day!

Brian, London,

As a happy single woman in my 40s, I am facinated by the thread of gender hostility which seems to cut both ways. It is disturbing actually and says more about the individuals writing it than about gender relations. However I am still mystified about when it became accepted that foreplay involve a scale? And why would anyone put up with that for an entire year? It seems that the anecdote works both ways - neither individual seemed to realize what is acceptable treatment of another person in a relationship.

Anna, Reykjavik, Iceland

At the end of the day, no matter how men or women fool themselves into thinking that they are looking for a 'soulmate' etc, it's all about looks. If you're good looking ther's a better chance of people fancying you, the more people fancy you, the more sex you can get, the more sex you can get the less you want to settle down etc etc.......

roper, london, london

The author needs to think hard about what her male peers (like Mark and Joseph) say. The 30+ guys rejecting you now are the ones you rejected decade ago. Having wider interests than angling for a man (100k plus Porsche natch) is spot on too.

But look on the bright side. By 40, your financial autonomy and kid-free status will make you a prize catch for solvent, attractive divorced men.

Vicky, Germany,

"Men are like eggs. They must hatch or go bad."
Insulting men seems fanciful these days, would such a thing being written about women, too? Maybe they do not find a husband at 30, because they "have gone bad"? Women age and they age fast, when they lack physical appeal, they do not find husbands or boyfriends anymore. Tell the women to use their good looks in their youth to find a husband and not to waste their youth on having sex with multiple guys.
Men do not go bad when they age: they grow in value, they invest money, become wiser and are less and less ready to give in to every whimp of a woman.

Jack Manson, Munich, Germany

This article made me happy. Single man, 30. Not really interested in sleeping around and boozing. When I now read this article, it tells me to be just a bit more assertive, because I have plenty of choice! Great. Maybe I will find Mrs. Right after all.
Applications from women aged 27-32, with a good job, a higher education - preferably good-looking - welcome

peter, Birmingham,

Steve, of Manchester -- the women who say have kids anyway want the kids more than they want your single male friends, so it all works out. They're happy, and I'm sure your friends would not want to be simply a means to an end, so they're probably happier too. Sometimes the kids, and not Mr. Right, are the end goal.

N., New York, NY

After wading through all the previous comments, a state of celibacy seems highly desirable!

Dale, York,

Fantastic, as a 39yr old male I had an issue about dating "someone too young" but after reading this I now realise its ok in the eyes of society to date someone in the mid-twenties.

Friday night, bring it on!!!!

ps. to the woman who says have kids anyway, well, that's instantly ruled you out amongst alot of my single male friends. Enjoy.


Steve, Manchester,

I don't care about marriage, all I want ed to do was to find somebody I could love. But I find that most men only want sex....so I've decided that I'll live my life on my own and all this love I have inside me will be spent on my family and friends.

Charlotte, 37, London, England

Boohoo , the chickens are coming home to roost . All the women who passed us by because we didn't measure up to 'Big' from Sex and the City , or Mr Darcy , are suddenly all lonlely and desperate . I wonder why ? Maybe if they realised that life isn't a Jane Green novel they'd be a lot happier . As for the man-boy thing , fantastic ! You're a long time dead so make the most of it chaps !

Dan, Watford ,

Ha Ha
I think as long as a woman thinks of a man as a "mate", and talks in terms of just getting 'a man', instead of her love or husband - she is doomed to be miserable ...and deservedly so...these terms suggest she is thinking only of herself and of a consumer good like a new handbag or dress, just an appendage for her satisfaction.
I usually cringe when i hear a woman talk of needing 'a man', it is selfish and tacky.
What they should be looking for is 'love' or a relationship', but if you want a 'mate' then go to the zoo.

Daniel K888, Melbourne, Australia

I am a 32 year old man-boy bachelor as described in the article and proud of it! I am having the time of my life and do not plan to settle down until I am at least 40. At that age, I would prefer a girl in her late 20's rather than a bitter battle-axe in her mid 30's. Single career women in their mid 30's DO tend to be domineering, vicious and desperate. In the meantime, I will enjoy great no strings attached sex with girls in their 20's, holidays wherever I fancy, my own space and the ability to do what I want whenever I want without having some neurotic, narcissist screeching at me all day. Most if not ALL my married friends envy my freedom and most of those who do not have children would give an arm or a leg to be in my position. Fuguez hits the nail on its head: Women in their mid-30's = less fun, more emotional baggage, more cynical and increasingly saggy body parts.

Samuel , Islington, London,

I lived with a 35 year old single girl in London (I am 27). She was completely barmy and a manic depressive man hater. I was very pleased when she threw me out. She could have been very attractive to a male of most ages, but I simply couldn't sympathise with her. Much of her behaviour was utterly bizarre and probably quite indicative of many single girls in their 30s (but admittedly quite extreme). It was just terrifying!! Fine, if one bloke did something nasty, thats life - get over it. I was dumped horribly once by a girl who strangely wanted me to prove my love for her. The opposite happened and I ran off scared to death. Stop being silly and be nice. Don't confuse us with your issues. I disagree that men are complicated. I just love women!! And will keep dating and going out til I find one I really like.

GP, Edinburgh, Scotland

In exactly 28 days you may propose to the man of your choice. In fact do what men do. Have a list, and work down it until one target accepts.
However there are very few businessmen or professionals who are looking to marry women in their late thirties. Mostly these men were the college "bucks", got the pretty girls as girlfriends, and married one of them on their way up. If they are divorced, they don't have the attitude, and can probably get younger and sexier women than you to set up for the next divorce. You've got to be realistic. You've left it too late for the husbad you could have had, not quite too late for any husband at all.

Malcolm McLean, Bradford, UK

The real point is that men loss everything when the divorce comes, so if you can drink the milk why buy the cow?

Mar Wakeling, London,

Laura, you need a reality check. You said that women should not settle for Mr. Okay, then my response is neither should men settle for Ms. Okay either. This battle between men and women I am sick to the back teeth of. When will people realise men and women are different and always will be. Trying to turn men into women and vice versa only complicates things. Categorizing men as sex starved perverts or women as brazen hussies is tantemount to a form of racism. Lets not get rapped up in these discussions and instead lets embrace our differences afterall opposites attract - fact.

Miesha, Manchester, UK

Poor little whiny Girls !!
maybe Men should not be considered as just another item in your shopping basket, just there to fulfill your pathetic TV/advertising fed notion of life, glowing and perfect happiness and all...
Why don't you stop shopping and watching TV , and start trying to have a life (try reading a book or practice a team sport, give time to a charity ) , doing interesting things will get you to meet other interesting people doing interesting things.

Anne, PARIS, FRANCE

Young Lady Against Feminism said...

I am glad her ex-husband has the 2 boys. She's a mental case. We don't need another Andrea Yates. Her husband never seemed like the nicest man but he's at 1000 times more capable of caring for the children than her. I don't feel any sympathy for her. I'll only pray for her. It's messed up that people are made to feel sorry for people who screwed up their lives and are a danger to others. Mary Winkler for example, we should pity her because her hubby was abusive, right? I don't buy it. I think she's just a cruel and sick woman. I heard the excuse that her girls need her since their dad died. Hello?! He's dead because you killed him! I pray for her too. I only for sorry for those humans who should get some pity. Women like Spears and Winkler, no pity. They can cry that hubby did it and courts here will believe them. If it's not true ( usually isn't), well, they'll have to deal with a much higher court once they pass away. Satan has no mercy.

reality2007 said...

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http://loseloseprospect.blogspot
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Anonymous said...

Here's the deal in plain English, ladies:

You want a man worth having?

Be a woman worth having.

Bring something to the table besides a fucking fork and a 3 piece set of Samsonite luggage that's bulging with all of the things you pissed away your attractive years on.

Or you're probably gonna continue to eat alone and pay for dinner.

We listened to you remind us that you don't owe us anything, for years.

We believe you.

See those chickens roosting?

Those are your motherfucking chickens.

*hug*

Anonymous said...

I assume some of you know the band nightwish. Their lead singer Tarja Turunen was ousted in 2005.

Tarja Turunen has become famous exclusively because of her participation in nightwish.
Interestingly, these were her thoughts about the band:

"You feel that you have sacrificed yourself and your musical career for Nightwish, rather than thinking what it has given to you."
http://www.nightwish.com/en/article/6

See, how she is a woman and claims to have sacrificed something? Which is not the case at all.

Anonymous said...

Trapping men is now officially advocated in major newspapers in UK. Sex is advocated to trap men. Take care, beware!
http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/article3283690.ece

"Or you can snare one of the single man-boys, but you must be cunning.

You must wait for him to call but, when he does, you must be devoted and give him glorious sex in flattering lighting.
In which case, trapping them may involve trickery . After five months – preferably during a three-day trip to Paris, so he can’t get away – you must say, lightly and just before sex: “I love every part of your life. I want to see you richly succeed. But you must marry me.” Then you must change tack and become very soft. You have touched on his deepest fears. Listen. Tell him to write that novel. Tell him that you love ELO. After a two-day sulk, which will be immensely wounding for you, he will begin to express his horrid, selfish fears, and thus you will be stumbling towards your perfectly imperfect life ."


Can you trust women anymore? How intelligent is this woman to complain about men and to advocate to trap them in the same article?

How deranged have they become?!?!?!

Eman said...

Duncan,

I've got this to add...like you stated, Britney's behavior is a bad influence for her two little boys...When they grow up and find out about her french-kissing, twat-exposing, poor-performances, and psychotic mood-swings, then that's when they'll grow to despise and regret being born to such a skank!

Mickey Mouse should've bitch-slapped her when he got the chance...same goes for the feminist-clad ball-busters!

Anonymous said...

Women just don't get it. Wake up and smell the coffee little girls. We're on to you and bullshit. You can't fool men anymore. You're arrogance has blinded you to the fact the it is common knowledge now amongst men that if you marry a western women your life is over. You're not marrying a responsible adult who you can have a family with. You end up with a manipulative twelve year old who at any point can rape you of everything you own from house, cars, kids, bank accounts to the point where you'll have move back in with your family and or rent an apartment. I'm laughing at the intellect of the modern western women. You're an absolute joke in the history of human beings.

Hmh said...

Agreed, Duncan. Britney is indeed the best poster - um - "something" that the MRM could ask for.

"Image of Britney"

"You could be married to THIS!"

Amazing to think that she was considered one of the worlds hottest women only a few years ago.

Now Kevin Federline is widely promoted as Dad Of The Year. Sure, the guy's got his faults, but anyone who can put up with this kind of bullshit from the mother of his kids - and then get custody of his kids, despite the American court system - deserves some kind of respect.

Anonymous said...

Hey Duncan, here's an article about some ruthless, thieving teenage American skanks.

No doubt protege's of Britney and Paris.

_______________

Teens Unremorseful After Stealing From Girl Scout

http://www.wpbf.com/news/15194935
/detail.html

Anonymous said...

According to some, Britney has been fed medication to drive her mad and maybe kill her. See links:
http://judicial-inc.biz/82hspear.htm